Editing GRIEF (section)

===Physics conflict/CBF===
Doggie originally planned to start verifying GRIEF after Update 2.2 was released. However, in October 2023, [[Robert Topala|RobTop]] announced that in Update 2.2, the game's physics would be locked to a uniform 240Hz across all devices, replacing the previous 360FPS physics-bypass meta that top players preferred. This decision sparked controversy, particularly among players like Doggie,<ref>https://x.com/DasherDoggie/status/1716576092385894572</ref><ref>https://x.com/DasherDoggie/status/1717231008654021070</ref> who argued that it would significantly impact high-level play due to increased input delay, making it harder to complete difficult levels like GRIEF. Consequently, Doggie postponed his GRIEF verification until a solution was reached. Later, in April 2024, syzzi released a mod on Geode called Click Between Frames (CBF), which lets players click between frame ticks with no input delay.<ref>https://x.com/zoe_bve/status/1776106599247143030</ref> Doggie took a liking to the mod,<ref>https://x.com/DasherDoggie/status/1776440902233321575</ref> showcasing impressive runs with it on Twitter.<ref>https://x.com/DasherDoggie/status/1776826460906430562</ref> He ultimately used it to verify GRIEF, sparking controversy and accusations that he gained an unfair advantage over other players. He also understood that verifying GRIEF with CBF would make the level ineligible for a rating—required for inclusion on the [[Demonlist (Pointercrate)|Demonlist]]—unless the mod was officially implemented in the vanilla game. To advocate for its implementation, he, along with Diamond<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcPjLy2W0HM</ref> and LordVadercraft,<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRv462sRxlc</ref> released a video on 7 May 2024.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ1w88fEgoA</ref> It featured insights from players like [[Technical]] and icedcave, advocating for the mod's inclusion in the vanilla game.

In June, RobTop stated that CBF would not be added to the game, making it effectively impossible to rate GRIEF if Doggie verified it with CBF. Since a rating was required for Demonlist placement, Doggie planned to verify GRIEF with CBF enabled, then rebeat it without CBF to qualify it for a rating.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tadA-qSrrjs&t=2255</ref> He preferred this approach over verifying without CBF from the start, since he did not want to nerf any parts of the level that he would not have nerfed with CBF.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tadA-qSrrjs&t=2274</ref> However, he later found that beating GRIEF without CBF was extremely difficult. He even considered having another player reverify the level without CBF after his own verification, but quickly realized no one would attempt it because it was brutal without the mod enabled. 

At that point, it seemed like GRIEF would never be rated. However, the issue eventually resolved itself. Doggie's only reason for wanting GRIEF rated was so it could appear on the Demonlist, which traditionally required levels to be rated. In May 2025, the Demonlist team announced a new section: the Rated+ list, which would include both rated and unrated levels.<ref>https://discord.com/channels/395654171422097420/395692399919366147/1376399042942074962</ref> Notably, the Demonlist had supported the use of CBF since as early as June 2024, accepting records achieved with the mod. They favoured including levels verified with CBF and wanted to feature them on the list, but the main obstacle was that such levels could not be rated because of RobTop's firm stance against rating them. However, the community's strong desire to see GRIEF listed—despite the use of CBF—prompted them to consider alternatives, primarily allowing unrated levels on the list. After a poll showed 82% support for a new list format, the Rated+ tab was confirmed. In the end, however, CBF was added to vanilla [[Geometry Dash]] in Update 2.208 on 19 January 2026, and perfected in 2.2081, ending all fears that GRIEF would not be rated upon its verification.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/geometrydash/comments/1qhdelj/cbf_added_to_vanilla/</ref> As such, the Rated+ tab was originally cancelled before being revisited a couple of months later.